thank you remgerar! iv'e been thinking of how to do this one for a while, and i forgot about alt+f4, i played with your idea and got this one to work, one gesture and no questions asked, emediate shut down [WIN_DOWN]D[WIN_UP][alt_down][f4]uuuuuu, put this in a "send keys trokes" command. make sure the gesture cant be acedentally drawn.