Help beta test .9.7 personal

btw: the same gesture commands used to work in the previous strokeit version. so is it really the fault of the other programs? or is it caused by a change in strokeit?

The problem with CTRL + ... remains, KeyView shows that only pressed CTRL =((

+ in the latest version of the program takes off, the choice KEY-SEND KEYSTROKES (WIN 7)

jeff Wrote:
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> You should probably bring it up with the authors
> of those programs. Let them know what hotkeys
> you're sending to their programs and that the
> keystrokes are being sent with the SendInput API.
>
> If you're trying to execute specific actions, they
> may suggest that you use SendInput with specific
> codes that they can provide.
>
> -- Jeff

i just tested the so-called WHEEL_UP/DOWN issue a different way. instead of using strokeit to send the ctrl- ctrl+ commands, i used another hotkey program called macro express. and macro express was able to send the commands to the programs correctly. so it doesnt seem that its the fault of the other programs not receiving the commands, but rather something peculiar with how strokeit sends the commands. and also the previous 0.9.6 version of strokeit was able to send correctly as well. can 0.9.7 be fixed so that the commands are sent correctly or in a more compatible way?

11-12 RC

hi, i had another strokeit crash and here is the crash report...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/nmhawf

File Name: tcb.dmp
Size: 6MB

11-12 RC Win7 32bit.

Selecting Send Keystrokes crashes the program.

Thanks for 9.7. However, minimizing some kind of applications is still an issue here (WinXP SP2). For example, WeBuilder or WinSCP minimizes to the bottom left of the screen. See WeBuilder in minimized state:

http://www.pixhost.org/show/323/1019350_web_min.png

I used a fresh install of StrokeIt (9.7), deleted all application gestures from it except Minimize from the Global Actions (Windows - Minimize). It's very annoying.

tpr Wrote:
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> Thanks for 9.7. However, minimizing some kind of
> applications is still an issue here (WinXP SP2).
> For example, WeBuilder or WinSCP minimizes to the
> bottom left of the screen. See WeBuilder in
> minimized state:
>
> http://www.pixhost.org/show/323/1019350_web_min.pn
> g
>
> I used a fresh install of StrokeIt (9.7), deleted
> all application gestures from it except Minimize
> from the Global Actions (Windows - Minimize). It's
> very annoying.

i also notice this problem on windows 7 x64

Until it's fixed, you could try this instead:
http://www.tcbmi.com/strokeit/forum/read.php?3,54412,54441#msg-54441

I may or may not work but it's worth a shot.

post number 30 (last post of first page) still doesnt work, nor do any direct run commands that would normally work with windows'es start>run, like c: or notepad etc

ive just found a workaround for it though, thru launching explorer by c:/windows/explorer.exe and putting /e,::{20D04FE0-3AEA-1069-A2D8-08002B30309D} as arguments to open my computer. or /e,c: to open c drive etc

would still be nice to have it work like it did before, to be able to launch such things as control panel applets

cheers

gemisigo Wrote:
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> Until it's fixed, you could try this instead:
> http://www.tcbmi.com/strokeit/forum/read.php?3,544
> 12,54441#msg-54441
>
> I may or may not work but it's worth a shot.


This does work, however i still wonder why the minimizing behavior has changed in the first place.
What does the new one do different than the post message command mentioned in the linked post?

that is a good question but I´ve absolutely no idea. I don´t use any of those irregularly minimizing appĺications mentioned here and none of mine has the same problem. Jeff could answer that but he seems to be busy these days. But he´ll fix that, I´m sure. He allways does. It just takes a little time.

i noticed that the WinMSG way of minimizing is a bit different. on windows 7, the minimize animation of the window fades away when using WinMSG, instead of shrinking into the taskbar icon when normal.

There's a new build that uses the SC_MINIMIZE method of minimizing windows.

To clarify:

This problem does not have anything to do with any changes in StrokeIt. For many many years the minimize command has simply been:

ShowWindow(hWnd, SW_MINIMIZE)

which is the "right way" to minimize a window. However, it seems that some newer applications are been doing their own internal window management and don't like having their windows minimized for them.

So, now we just send the SC_MINIMIZE command and let them do whatever internal handling they do to minimize a window.

With any luck, this will fix minimizing on the fussy apps without introducing any new problems minimizing all other programs. Give it a whirl and let me know how it works.

-- Jeff

hi:

When i add command with select "send keystrokes" , the program exit every time.

My os is windows 2003 server .

9.6 is OK.

There's a new build that should fix the crashing problem when creating/editing keystrokes.

-- Jeff

The problem with CTRL + C(UP) and CTRL+V(DOWN) remains! (Win 7 (x32))

INTERNET4IK Wrote:
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> Hi! There is a problem in win7 (Russian Ver.).
> Hot-keys in combination with CTRL (only) do not
> work after you restart the application, but when I
> delete and add new actions or command - all work.
>
> After restart it does not work again, but all the
> commands are saved!!
> I have used the following commands:"Keys -
> HOT-KEYS" and "Keys - Send Keystrokes " but there
> were no results.
>
>
> it is a problem in .9.6 and .9.7 versions.
> XP and VISTA modes do not help and Running with
> administrator rights too.

Same in "Safe mode" and with the muted outpost and nod32 =(

is the WHEEL_UP/DOWN issue fixed in the new build?

today, after i reboot my windows 7 x64 pc, i got a message saying demo expired for the personal version and strokeit wont load, even though i never installed the enchanced version. i still have the 11-12 rc installed at the moment. is this fixed in the 11-28 rc?

AFAIK it does not have to do anything with the enhanced version. Both versions should expire after a while. This way users are enforced to use (the most) recent versions. And yes, the 11-28 rc should work for you.

so it checks if theres a latest version and expires if there is?

There is always a latest version :)

I'm not sure how it works, I think it is set to check a predefined date or time interval to expire. But it definitely does not check if there is a new version available. It would be caught by firewall and that did not happen yet.

INTERNET4IK Wrote:
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> The problem with CTRL + C(UP) and CTRL+V(DOWN)
> remains! (Win 7 (x32))
>
> INTERNET4IK Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hi! There is a problem in win7 (Russian Ver.).
> > Hot-keys in combination with CTRL (only) do not
> > work after you restart the application, but when
> I
> > delete and add new actions or command - all
> work.
> >
> > After restart it does not work again, but all
> the
> > commands are saved!!
> > I have used the following commands:"Keys -
> > HOT-KEYS" and "Keys - Send Keystrokes " but
> there
> > were no results.
> >
> >
> > it is a problem in .9.6 and .9.7 versions.
> > XP and VISTA modes do not help and Running
> with
> > administrator rights too.
>
> Same in "Safe mode" and with the muted outpost and
> nod32 =(


The problem is solved ! I to Install the English language by default (Instead Russian) in the WINDOWS 7. After restart - all is working =))))

so now even personal users have to pay for strokeit or else it will expire? since when did this happen?

i got a strokeit crash when performing a gesture to launch a program after a fresh reboot of windows 7 x64. it has happened since i tested the 10-31 RC and now still in the 11-28 RC. it seems to occur on the first gesture i perform after the reboot. the gesture was a RIGHT on the taskbar to launch a program. can this be fixed?

btw: i checked my settings folder and there was no crash report.

> so now even personal users have to pay for
> strokeit or else it will expire? since when did
> this happen?

What part of my post made you think that you have to pay for the personal edition?

the WHEEL_UP/DOWN issue is still there in 11-28 rc

hi, here are 2 crash reports from me on 11-28 rc. im on windows 7 x64.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/0v982z
File Name: CrashRpt.zip
Size: 794KB

There's a new build with some internal memory changes. Be on the lookout for anything weird that might be happening when executing gestures, especially with learning/adding new gestures.

@Allen: The newest build should fix the crashes that you reported.

The Wheel Up/Down issue only affects certain applications (Opera/IE) on 64bit Win7 and it's my opinion that it is an issue with the Win7 stack. I don't think there's much I can do about it and I'm not going to hold the .9.7 release because of it.

-- Jeff

With the new build (061209) WHEEL_UP/DOWN doesn't work anymore. The icon color changes to blue, but nothing happens.

After reboot (Win7-64) the gestures work fine, but there is no colored line. The lines come back when I open Strokeit settings. (.9.6 + .9.7)

See if the line is visible on the desktop. I have a similar problem: sometimes the line can only be seen at the desktop level. It's still drawing though. If I start it in a window, it doesn't show but it does as soon as the cursor leaves the window and it hides once again when I move it to a window, no matter where it got started. It seems as if it draws 'under' the windows on the lowest layer.

Please, check if this part of your problem is the same as mine!